Simon Darby Shows His True Colours At Public Hustings.

BNP deputy leader and Parliamentary candidate for Stoke on Trent central Simon Darby used a public hustings to make a racist jibe at an Asian opponent last night, April 28th.
At the public meeting on local education held in Bentilee, Conservative candidate Norsheen Bhatti responded to a question asked by a resident saying “there is nothing British about the BNP. At that point Mr Darby pitched in with “I’m more British then you are.”
When ask to explain himself he said “You made a personal attack on me and you got one back.”
Miss Bhatti, who was born in Birmingham, had moved seat at the beginning of the debate, into an empty one left by Liberal Democrat John Redfern , who refused to attend the meeting because of the Simon Darby being there.
Other candidate’s attending the meeting were Independent Gary Elsby, Matt Wright of the Trade Union and Socialist Coalition and Independent and Stoke on Trent councillor Brian Ward.
Candidate’s not attending, apart for John Redfern, were Labours Tristin Hunt , Independents Paul Breeze and Alby Walker and a National Front candidate.
Not content with attacking other candidates Mr. Darby opposed the plan to merge Edensor Technology Collage with Mitchell Business and Enterprise College, Bucknall. He explained he believed that forcing white and Muslim pupils to mix at any academy would made “a huge social engineering factory.”

Now I’m not going to be rude, or go off my head about Mr, Darby’s disgraceful outburst. My I just point out that what Miss Bhatti did was not to personally attack him, it was a statement on the party he belongs to, which she is fully entitled to do. If he is too thick to see this, which it looks like he is, I would question if he deserves to represent this city, or any part of it, at Westminster

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  • ex-pat Stokie

    Gary Elsby: “The meeting last night was solely to say where each candidate stood on the local communities wishes to merge BerryHill High with the Mitchell High School.

    “I make every effort possible to confront the BNP over their policies, but this night was for the local action group to judge who is best placed to fight for them. The Conservatives were caught out light on policy and resorted to the race card.”

  • bernard

    Yes, because the thing about Mitchell is what a wild success story it is as a school, with all those BNP voters’ kids going there and exercising their natural superiority over people like Nora Batty with their excellent results. I’m sure the only thing that prevents them conquering the world is Asians.

    Not.

  • Roland

    Did you just call Norsheen Bhatti an Asian Warren?

    You racist, I thought she was British!

  • Warren Lloyd

    Roland, she is a woman of Asian desent, I was in no way inpolite, she was born in this country, you can call me a racist if you like, but I’ll just call your party a party of singel minded idiots, who can not or will not debate without resorting to underhanded comments and cheep and nasty mud slinging.
    I don’t know about about any school being sucsessfull, just pinpointing on GCSE results to me defeats the object of education. Leaveing education many years ago now, and not haveing children, its a subject I know little about, witch is the reason I did not focas on it more in the report. I’m sure if any school is a sucsess, its down to the kids and the way they are looked after in school time by the theachers of the school, many of them will be members of the NUT, who are about as stuck on the BNP as I am.
    Like I say it was not an attack on Darby, it was an attact on the BNP, witch Miss Bhatti is within her rights to do, next moment he’s in there makeing comments like the that. Its no party member we a talking about hear, its the BNPs second in cammand, and if he can not see the diffrance between a commet on a party, witch we are seeing 1000 times a day as we lead up to ballat day and a personal attack, its time to give it up.

  • Roland

    But you didn’t call her a woman of Asian desent you called her an Asian!

    If Simon Derby had called her that on the night he would have been shouted down as a racist, as it was he said nothing of the sort!

    Now I don’t suspect for one moment that you are a racist but it just goes to show how careful you have to be with words (ask Gordon Brown) and that any little slip can be twisted to your opponents advantage.

    A coment such as Ms Bhatti’s against a party is also an comment against it’s members you can not separate the two.

    What I believe Ms Bhatti meant when she used that comment ‘there is nothing British about the BNP’ is that the BNP’s ideaology is un-British although she didn’t articulate it very well and that what Simon meant was that his parties policies were more British than Ms Bhatti’s parties policies although Simon didn’t articulate his view very well either.

    I take it the rest of the post is aimed at someone else but I would say that it is the Labour government that has set all these targets for GCSE’s that every school is judged a success or failure by, no teacher I have spoken to likes or wants these Labour imposed targets they get in the way of real education.

  • terry turbo

    Miss Bhatti set her stall out before the debate began by complainig about Simon Derby sitting near her, and she was clearly out to cause an argument.
    She attacked Simon Darby he replied with a fact.
    Whats her or anyboys problem.
    If she is going to pull out the race card every time someone answers her back, she had better get her printers printing a damm site more.
    Warren, if she cannot take this how the hell is she going to take on the others in parliament.
    She is an amateur and she will have to grow up or get out of the kitchen, as I’m sure there are more insults comming her way if she carries on in politics.
    Calling people Asians (even though they are) got a pensioner in Tunstall landed with a court case, a criminal record, and costs of £90 a few years ago.

  • Arti

    Simon Darby has shown many many times that he is just too thick to be a politician. Witness his appearances on TV interviews. I’m sure even Nick cringes when Simon says the things he says.
    I believe Simon took the statement as personal – persumably he can’t tell the difference. Rarely in politics is anything personal – i’m sure the three party leaders get on over a pint quite well.
    The BNP shows you just how unprofessional they are.

  • Warren Lloyd

    Sorry Rowland, there is a disinct seperation between the party itself and its members. Simon Darby knows this, and sould have not taken the remark, that was infact used on Question Time a number of times when Nick Griffen was on the panel, as a personal attact.
    Like I say in my first reponce, I’m not the best on matters involveing education, but yes, I do thing that the targrts set by govenments, both Conservatives over the years, baced only on GCSE targets are more the unfair to both children and theatchers.
    So Rowland lets look what the BNP would bring to the education system. The return of corpral punishment in schools. Its out with the cain, the belt, the pump, the slipper, the strap and the old b*****ks of ‘it never did me any halm’ as an get out to put fear into children.
    Then they want to go as far as to make school uniform compulsery, again enforcing a kind of control. They would also limit the rigths of parents of kids with health problems to put them in main streem education.
    They would endever to introduse once again a two tear education system, bringing the stuffy old Grammer School back, consieing many kids to the srap heap at the age off 10 or 11.
    They would force schools to partake in Christian acts of worship each school day- hands together, eyes clased and its a bloody good crack with the cain if you don’t. The organised Christian church in this country are so up for that idea, they won’t enen speak to the BNP. Of-course the Muslim, Sikh, Hinde, Buddhists, Jews, Pagens, not forgeting the out and out heathens would be forced into it as well. Al lest them who have not been paid off to retune with there famley to there ‘countey of oragin’, put on a plain and forced back to the counrty they may well have been displaced out of by war or a total disregard for there rights as people. Or indeed blamed for all the ills of this country, from wet summers and mild winters that change the growing season of the sodding Dafferdill, to the colapes of the banks world wide and all the crime in the nation, and there loved ones bloody well hung. Then, becouse the bloody b*****d BNP have stoped fostering, the poor little mites would have to go, with Olever Twist, or Tracy Beaker, take your pick in to a childrens home or a workhouse.

    There, I’v said it, anyone think its a little over the top.

  • Lee

    Waren

    What do you expect Simon Derby to do ? Just sit there and let this woman disrespect him and his party ?
    If she hadn’t opened her big gob in the first place there would have been no need for him to fight back !

    Just in this last week your party of choice have been in the news on three occasions that I know of , and none of them have put your party in good light

    !) A LABOUR parliamentary candidate has been arrested for drink driving after running into a roundabout
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/election-2010/7651153/General-Election-2010-Labour-candidate-arrested-over-suspected-drink-driving.html

    2)another LABOUR candidate is being investigated for an ( alleged ) breach of electoral law

    http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=153225020

    3) then we have gormless Gordon and his Bigot comment

    Each of these misdemeanours I find a lot more worrying than what Simon Derby said

    Even Gary Elsby who I am sure you know is no fan of the BNP says that

    I will challenge the BNP every day of the week on immigration and what is British or not and I need take no lessons from Leanne.
    The Tory candidate had no reason whatsoever to bring up a slogan about a political party’s Britishness when the subject matter was about a School. If the local action group want to call a meeting regarding racism, immigration and Britishness, then I will be the first one there. Last night was about a fight to save a school, and political games using insults to and fro had no place there at all. I could have ripped off Simon Darby all night but chose to speak up for the local community and inform them that I was persecuted by Labour because I opposed mark Meredith’s plan to close the Mitchell High school.

    ( This from the sentinel )

    In conclusion maybe when Labour are whiter than white you might have something to bang your gums at !

    Lee

    P/S hope the links work

  • Warren Lloyd

    Lee, in a word, yes, the mans a f**king idiot, now thats personal abuse for you, if he wants to come on hear and have a go back, he’s more them welcome, I’ll be off line the rest of the day, but I’ll sure as hell bloody well repond to the old Herbert,no offence to any one named Herbert ment.

  • Tideswellman

    Lee its easy to find mistakes made by members of any political party. Everyone is feeling the pressure.

    http://www.thisiscroydontoday.co.uk/courts/BNP-candidate-spat-pushed-screamed-anti-racist-campaigners/article-2089767-detail/article.html?

  • Lee

    Tideswellman

    that was exactly my point !

    what gets me is that Waren seems to think that his beloved Labour party are beyond reproach .

  • Designation WWCW

    What she said was childish and intended to provoke.
    He responded, simple as.
    This election campaign is turning into a farce for all concerned.

  • terry turbo

    I beleive that political party’s messing with Education has caused nothing but harm.
    We had a tried and tested system that worked with our schools.
    The brightest went to Grammar the rest went on to apprentaships.
    Pink Floyds “Brick in the wall” sums up Acadamies.
    Children are not robots, and putting them in Acadamies they are lost in the crowd, while in local smaller schools they are better monitored by teachers and staff.
    Corporal punishment in schools.
    Well look at the result of letting kids dictate in the classroom.
    No respect, no discipline inside school or out.
    Even in the animal kingdom parents disipline their offspring.
    I am not advocating child battery just shot sharp shock treatment.
    Back to the debate.
    Politics is sometimes a dirty buisness and you have to have a thick skin, and be able to apolagise when your mouth goes before your brain is engaged.

  • Tideswellman

    Well, that may be so, however, its fairy clear what both people meant.

    Miss Bhatti mean the BNP’s values are not British. ie Tolerance, and fairness.

    Mr Darby’s comments, well he was pointing out that her ancestors weren’t British.

    Depending on which side of the fence you come down on. Her comment was vague, and his was , below the belt.

  • Designation WWCW

    I have to say that I know teachers who worked long and hard to qualify for the job, who were keen and eager to teach who have now quit because discipline is a thing of the past. Uncontrollable classes of kids who do not want to learn backed up by their parents who don’t care either way but will happily face-off with a teacher for trying to control their ill-trained offspring. Teachers who were expected to teach 14 year olds high level IT skills but were faced with disruptive “special needs” children who had to be in the same class ( and I’m talking hyperactive,ocd and, on one occasion, tourettes), pupils who walked out when they felt like it and threw items ( monitors, keyboards etc etc) and that’s without mentioning the immigrant children who got shoved into the same classes and expected to learn to exam standard when they don’t understand a single word of English.
    How can this situation possibly benefit anyone ?

    My sister went to Grammar school in Newcastle.

  • Nick

    Well, it does seem that Norsheen started this personal attack on Simon by not wanting to be photographed with him or sit next to him and then to say that there is nothing British about him (BNP). I think I would have been pretty pissed off as well ! – not surprised Simon retaliated and said what he said.

  • Warren Lloyd

    Lee, I do not think my beloved…lol, Labour party are behond reproche at all. I opanly said that what Brown-whom think should have been removed from power last year, and I’ll go futher, should not have been alowed to become leader of the Labour party un-opposed- said on Wednesday out of order. I’m by nature very independant, but a little left wing, as I treat people, apart from no-brain fools like Darby who seem to want a form of mass govenment control, as I would what people to treat me.
    Tides, come on, its not below the belt, its true, a part of what made this country is its willing, of most anyway to adapt, to welcome other cultures. Why have we got to change now, becouse the the likes of Giffin, Darby and that utter prat Barnbrook think we should. No, I say no, we point out that what they are doing is not British, and tell them to stuff there backword mindset up there damed backsides.

    Nick, it was the lady’s right to refuse to be photoed with Darby and sit next to him. Perrsonaly, I would have though that one of the lads, would have only have been to pleased to ‘get in his face’, I would have, positivly enjoy it. Bottem line, she acted within her rights to point out the failings of the BNP, he was SOOOOO THICK, he could not seperate a personal attact from a attact on the party, shame on him, it proves he can not part-tack in a debate without dragging it into the gutter, witch is where he and his party belong.

  • Lee

    Waren I am in complete agreement with Griffin Derby and Barnbrook, Does that make me an utter prat ?

    you say that she was in her right’s so by that score He was within his right’s to defend what he believes in ! cant have it both ways . And as I said before she started it, would you have sat there and said nothing ?
    She draged it into the gutter He just pointed out the truth !

  • Designation WWCW

    Warren – yes we are welcoming and tolerant – that’s why this situation is so bad. We have sat back and accepted it while Brown and co. took the mickey. There have to be limits.
    If a person takes in 300 stray cats that they can’t possibly look after then they all suffer and that person gets called mentally ill – that is the situation we are in here – this government is mentally ill and hoarding people. We can’t look after the ones we’ve got so now everyone is going to suffer.
    it’s alright for the likes of Brown and Mandelson in their ivory towers – they don’t get to live with the day to day of it all. They don’t see their children’s education going down the pan because half the class don’t know English and their open green spaces don’t get shoddy, substandard housing plastered all over them.

  • Fartybumpants

    Do that mean you also believe this bollocks that mixed-race relationships are some sort of perversion bordering on bestiality? Racial purity is a polite way of saying inbreeding.

  • tonyjohnt

    So, WWCW – Brown and Mandellson with their arrogance. Cameron and Osbourne, the Eton educated millionaires. Clegg, the public school opportunist. Griffin, the white supremacist.

    With all these “Ivory Towers” that need building – it’s not looking too good for any green and open spaces.

  • Roland

    So Warren it’s OK for you to call her an ‘Asian’ but if Simon Derby had called her that you would have been up in arms calling him a ‘racist’!

    Double standards in my book!

  • Warren Lloyd

    Roland, it least I see she as the right to call herself British mate, so there, now, get back under whatever stone you craled out from under. Wish you all the luck in the world next Thrusday, I’m sure the voters of Stafford will show you what you and the BNP can do with your nice mindset. Lee, no, might make you brainwasned, but a prat, I could not say, never seem you interviewed, but if you came across like thay do, yes, I’d call you a prat.